It will be frustrating initially, but sooner than you think you’ll be FORCED to use more gentle inputs. Take a C or B class rear wheel drive car, turn off all the assists, run manual with clutch and run a lot of laps at Brands Hatch in the rain. I think the fastest way to learn is to jump in the deep end. You’re only slowing your own development by staying with automatic. As it becomes second nature, you move up to faster cars. In the lower class cars you have all day to think about shift points. It will seem difficult for a little bit as your brain adapts to the new task, but you’ll pick it up faster than you think. Map your “A” button to the clutch, and on every shift slide your thumb from A to X or B. Run lower class cars in manual w/ clutch. The sooner you suck it up and tough it out to learn it, the sooner you’ll be faster too. Would you say walking is faster than driving “to you” because you don’t know how to drive a car? I understand what you mean, but I’m trying to reframe your mind. I even acknowledged that manual with clutch was technically faster while pointing out that in practice it isn’t faster for me (or necessarily any given person). With that statement, individual variables such as skill and hardware perforce come into play. Skills being equally proficient, as you put it, doesn’t mesh with the ‘fast to you’ statement I was countering. (that’s not a knock on you, just trying to point out how you’re comparing different things - skills vs transmissions) When you learn to use it, you’ll be faster. There really is no “what’s fast to you” option. If you’re not faster with them off, it’s not because they’re not faster, it’s because your skills are inadequate to use them. So anyone who practices manual w/ clutch will eventually be better than they were with automatic, because manual w/ clutch is inherently faster.Īs a gaming concern, Forza provides an advantage to manual skills - so manual w/ clutch, ABS off, TCS and STM off… are all generally faster options if you’re capable of doing so. You’re less proficient with manual w/ clutch, but proficient use of manual w/ clutch is objectively faster than proficient use of automatic. The transmissions are being evaluated - so proficient use ought be an assumed constant. Your assertion is incorrect because skill isn’t what’s being evaluated in this discussion. Skills being equally proficient, the bicycle is clearly faster than walking. While everyone else is telling you, riding a bicycle is faster than walking (which presumes equal skill) - apples to apples. You have two variables - skill and transportation method (apples and oranges). In essence, you’re saying walking is faster than riding a bicycle because you don’t know how to ride a bike. The OP should just give it a go and see if they can make it work for them - what’s technically true may not hold up under practical application for various reasons. Manual w/Clutch can die in a fire… like I probably would if I was racing Manual w/Clutch. If I’m lucky I can slightly exceed it in a Manual, but it hasn’t been worth the headache since Monaco GP 2. Automatic is the consistently fastest option for me.
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